Jacinda Ardern Discusses Popularity Decline on Graham Norton Show

Former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern addressed the decline in her public approval ratings leading up to her resignation in January 2023 during an appearance on The Graham Norton Show. The episode, which aired on Saturday morning (NZT), is part of her promotional tour for the documentary Prime Minister. Ardern shared the screen with notable guests, including actor Kate Winslet, comedians Alan Carr and Seth Meyers, and singer Cat Burns.

During the discussion, host Graham Norton pointedly asked Ardern, “What went wrong? What was the tipping point?” In her response, Ardern noted a significant shift in the global political climate, marked by increasing aggression and hostility towards leaders. “I don’t think it is just any one leader who has experienced that shift,” she said. “It has shifted, and amongst all of that, I do think we’re at a moment in time.”

Ardern expressed her hope for a return to civility in politics, urging people to maintain faith in the system. She stated, “Expect decency in politics, expect kindness in your politics. I do think we will come back to that,” as reported by Stuff.

Reflections on Leadership and Motherhood

Winslet commended Ardern for her resilience during a pivotal time in her life, specifically when she learned of her pregnancy while engaged in coalition talks with New Zealand First after the 2017 election. Ardern became Prime Minister just one week later when Winston Peters agreed to form a government with the Labour Party. Winslet, renowned for her role in *Titanic*, exclaimed, “Oh my god, she is so amazing,” highlighting Ardern’s ability to balance her responsibilities.

Although the episode has been broadcast internationally, it is scheduled to air in New Zealand on the TVNZ app starting December 12.

In a separate interview with BBC Radio 4, Ardern elaborated on her experience of keeping her pregnancy private for the first 20 weeks while coping with severe nausea. She emphasized her desire to avoid any doubts about her commitment to her role, aiming to demonstrate that leadership and motherhood can coexist. “I am not going to lie, those first 20 weeks were hard, but they were also doable,” she shared.

Ardern’s reflections highlight the complexities of political life and personal challenges, showcasing her commitment to both her career and family. As she continues her media tour, her insights resonate with many navigating the intersection of public service and personal life.